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Less than 25% of Muslims blame al-Qaeda for 9/11 attacks

Haiti News.Net
Wednesday 25th April, 2007

An in-depth poll of four major Muslim countries has found that in all of them large majorities believe that undermining Islam is a key goal of US foreign policy.

Most want US military forces out of the Middle East and many approve of attacks on US troops there.

Most respondents have mixed feelings about al Qaeda. Large majorities agree with many of its goals, but believe that terrorist attacks on civilians are contrary to Islam.

There is strong support for enhancing the role of Islam in all of the countries polled, through such measures as the imposition of sharia (Islamic law). This does not mean that they want to isolate their societies from outside influences: Most view globalization positively and favor democracy and freedom of religion.

These findings are from surveys in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, and Indonesia conducted from December 2006 to February, 2007 by WorldPublicOpinion.org with support from the START Consortium at the University of Maryland.

Large majorities across all four countries believe the United States seeks to, “weaken and divide the Islamic world.” On average 79 percent say they perceive this as a US goal, ranging from 73 percent in Indonesia and Pakistan to 92 percent in Egypt. Equally large numbers perceive that the United States is trying to maintain “control over the oil resources of the Middle East” (average 79%). Strong majorities (average 64%) even believe it is a US goal to “spread Christianity in the region.”

“While US leaders may frame the conflict as a war on terrorism, people in the Islamic world clearly perceive the US as being at war with Islam,” said Steven Kull, editor of WorldPublicOpinion.org.

Consistent with this concern, large majorities in all countries (average 74%) support the goal of getting the United States to “remove its bases and military forces from all Islamic countries,” ranging from 64 percent in Indonesia to 92 percent in Egypt.

Substantial numbers also favor attacks on US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the Persian Gulf. Across the four countries polled approximately half support such attacks in each location, while three in ten are opposed. But there is substantial variation between countries: Support is strongest in Egypt, where at least eight in ten approve of attacking US troops in the region. A majority of Moroccans also support targeting US forces, whether stationed in the Persian Gulf (52%) or fighting in Iraq (68%). Pakistanis are divided about attacks on the American military, many do not answer or express mixed feelings, while Indonesians oppose them.

However, respondents roundly reject attacks on civilians. Asked about politically-motivated attacks on civilians, such as bombings or assassinations, majorities in all countries—usually overwhelming majorities—take the strongest position offered by saying such violence cannot be justified at all. More than three out of four Indonesians (84%), Pakistanis (81%), and Egyptians (77%) take this position, as well as 57 percent of Moroccans (an additional 19 percent of Moroccans say such attacks can only be “weakly justified”).

Attitudes toward al-Qaeda are complex. On average, only three in ten view Osama bin Laden positively. Many respondents express mixed feelings about bin Laden and his followers and many others declined to answer.

There is strong disapproval of attacks by “groups that use violence against civilians, such as al-Qaeda.” Large majorities in Egypt (88%), Indonesia (65%) and Morocco (66%) agree that such groups “are violating the principles of Islam.” Pakistanis are divided, however, with many not answering.

But there is also uncertainty about whether al-Qaeda actually conducts such attacks. On average less than one in four believes al-Qaeda was responsible for September 11th attacks. Pakistanis are the most skeptical, only 3 percent think al-Qaeda did it. There is no consensus about who is responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington; the most common answer is “don’t know.”

Most significantly, large majorities approve of many of al-Qaeda’s principal goals. Large majorities in all countries (average 70 percent or higher) support such goals as: “stand up to Americans and affirm the dignity of the Islamic people,” “push the US to remove its bases and its military forces from all Islamic countries,” and “pressure the United States to not favor Israel.”

Equally large majorities agree with goals that involve expanding the role of Islam in their society. On average, about three out of four agree with seeking to “require Islamic countries to impose a strict application of sharia,” and to “keep Western values out of Islamic countries.” Two-thirds would even like to “unify all Islamic counties into a single Islamic state or caliphate.”

But this does not appear to mean that the publics in these Muslim countries want to isolate themselves from the larger world. Asked how they feel about “the world becoming more connected through greater economic trade and faster communication,” majorities in all countries say it is a good thing (average 75%). While wary of Western values, overall 67 percent agree that “a democratic political system” is a good way to govern their country and 82 percent agree that in their country “people of any religion should be free to worship according to their own beliefs.”

 

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Anonymous
04-25-07, 06:47 PM

Less than 25% of Muslims blame al-Qaeda for 9/11 attacks

Even we indian Muslims do not blame Al Qaeda..

TI
04-25-07, 07:30 PM

Indian Muslims that I have met...

Indian Muslims that I have met...and I have met several, have a different opinion than that stated above. Indiam Muslims that I have met were even more hawkish than most Americans that I meet and discuss politics with. These people were Sunni Muslims from India. I’ve been told by several here in Illinois, USA that O’Sama Bin Laden is an animal and that the US has every right to take its war on the road globally to wherever it may lead to do the job of crushing terrorism. Funny because even many American’s do not hold such strong opinions. It seems that their new found love for their new homeland means something to them and they do not appreciate having the opportunities and freedom given to them attacked.

Maybe the Indian Muslim above is not from the states.

Mohammed Zaki
04-26-07, 02:28 AM

The Islamic war against civilisation

The real problem is that Islam has been effectively hijacked by violent extremists who readily children into conscious “martyrs”. This creates an environment of fear where no one is allowed to speak the truth for fear of their lives and the lives of their families. And once the fundamental totalitarian aim of silencing the masses is achieved, the Islamic extremists are free to claim anything they wish. Evil is good, good is bad, and God Almighty has appointed them to destroy all non-muslims; and bless them for “martrying” innocent Muslims in the process.

By definition, the embracement of the circular logic of endless Terrorism in the name of God is having the material effect of turning Islam into a nihilistic death cult from Palestine to the Philipines. I does not appear it will end until the last two Islami c extremists are left facing each other with murder in their eyes.

usama bin ladin302
04-26-07, 11:40 AM

very good usama

I proud to be usama bin ladin.
He is our hero.

And Insha Allah he will bring the Islamic government in all over the world.

spook
04-26-07, 02:19 PM

9/11

Denial. Look it up.

THE FACTS
04-27-07, 11:40 AM

WHAT MR BI-LADEN HAS DONE IS ONLY A DROP IN THE OCEAN COMPARED TO WHAT JEWS AND AMERICANS AND BRITISH HAVE DONE. HE IS ANGEL COMPARED TO THE REST. HOW WOULD THE JEWS/AMERICANS AND BRITISH LIKE THERE COUNTRYS OCCUPIED THERE WOMEN RAPED THERE CHILDREN ABUSED.

Pontotoc Bill
04-25-07, 06:50 PM

Unregistered;24875:
Even we indian Muslims do not blame Al Qaeda..



Which just proves how misguided and ignorant the majority is.

Even Osama has publicly admitted that al-Qa’ida is responsible for the attacks. Osama has admitted responsibility, yet there are those who have listened to lies for so long that they cannot accept reality when it smacks them in the face.

BTW: If you are one of those who do not blame al-Qa’ida, then it truely proves you are a fool and an idiot who will follow any mentally ill moron.

RWN
04-26-07, 10:03 AM

Proves only that religion requires blinders to reality.

Proves anything a fellow Muslim does is OK and acceptable even the murder of fellow muslims.
Just look at Iraq thousands of fellow Muslims are blown up because they can’t get along.
They all need a good swift kick in the ass.

911research
04-26-07, 07:16 PM

mmm

Pontotoc Bill;24876:
Which just proves how misguided and ignorant the majority is.

Even Osama has publicly admitted that al-Qa’ida is responsible for the attacks. Osama has admitted responsibility, yet there are those who have listened to lies for so long that they cannot accept reality when it smacks them in the face.

BTW: If you are one of those who do not blame al-Qa’ida, then it truely proves you are a fool and an idiot who will follow any mentally ill moron.



Actually, who’s really blind the one that blindly follows Osama like you obviously do? When you actually look at the videos that were released of Osama it’s clearly not the same person..
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u207/911research/190207fatnose.jpg

Anonymous
04-25-07, 08:00 PM

Why should the Study be believed??

I may be wrong but I see no reason to put aside the obvious bias of the Study Owners. Likely CIA ownership.

I view the informations more as influence pedaling than containing real data.

Because a supporter of influence pedaling stole my name(galljdaj) the site assigns the name.

Anonymous
04-25-07, 08:06 PM

TI;24879:
Indian Muslims that I have met...and I have met several, have a different opinion than that stated above. Indiam Muslims that I have met were even more hawkish than most Americans that I meet and discuss politics with. These people were Sunni Muslims from India. I’ve been told by several here in Illinois, USA that O’Sama Bin Laden is an animal and that the US has every right to take its war on the road globally to wherever it may lead to do the job of crushing terrorism. Funny because even many American’s do not hold such strong opinions. It seems that their new found love for their new homeland means something to them and they do not appreciate having the opportunities and freedom given to them attacked.

Maybe the Indian Muslim above is not from the states.



and maybe you met some rich indians? the majority are still poor.

Anonymous
04-25-07, 08:04 PM

Al-Qaeda isnt responsible. plain and simple. you lames go ahead and think voting does you some kind of good. by the way wich rich british guy or girl you gonna vote for this time?

RWN
04-26-07, 10:06 AM

Why should anything you say be believed?

Unregistered;24881:
I may be wrong but I see no reason to put aside the obvious bias of the Study Owners. Likely CIA ownership.

I view the informations more as influence pedaling than containing real data.

Because a supporter of influence pedaling stole my name(galljdaj) the site assigns the name.



You cite nothing, give nothing but opinion and throw terms around and then whine about your silly pen name.

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 11:24 AM

Unregistered;24881:
I may be wrong but I see no reason to put aside the obvious bias of the Study Owners. Likely CIA ownership.

I view the informations more as influence pedaling than containing real data.

Because a supporter of influence pedaling stole my name(galljdaj) the site assigns the name.



More proof of your gullibility and stupidity.

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 11:25 AM

Unregistered;24882:
Al-Qaeda isnt responsible. plain and simple. you lames go ahead and think voting does you some kind of good. by the way wich rich british guy or girl you gonna vote for this time?



Osama bin Laden admitted that he/al-Qa’ida was responsible. Why do you deny facts, little boy?

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 03:32 PM

Unregistered;24882:
Al-Qaeda isnt responsible. plain and simple. you lames go ahead and think voting does you some kind of good. by the way wich rich british guy or girl you gonna vote for this time?



Plain and simple for you, moron. Osama bin Laden has admitted that al-Qa’ida was responsible. How can you even think that they were not responsible when they admit it? What is your problem with factual evidence? Are you so mentally warped that you don’t believe anything but Islamofascist propaganda?

Grow up and get an education, little boy.

time to wake up
04-25-07, 08:57 PM

Bush & Bin-Ladin nightmare

The real terrorists are the zionists & the republican adminsistration currently ruling the U.S. It is now evidently clear that the events that took place on 9/11 were of american doing..bin-ladin & co. were & are an extension for american foreign policy. Iraq & Afghanistan didnt have any specific role in the 9/11 sequel of events, there no weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq, the whole scenerio was made up, & fed wholesum to an ignorant, blind mass of people, finely tuned by the zionist mass media into believing as a genuine terrorist threat. With so many american military bases & so many traitors willing to sell their bodies to the americans, it is indeed strange how.. Bin-Ladin still crops up now & then, just prior to americans making their next move. It is indeed so up-setting that so many americans follow blindly to the illegal, genecidal actions of their corrupt government, so willing to fight wars for their colony - isreal.
masses in the west are cheated, time & time again, there simply is no alternative to Labour or Conservative or Democrat or Republican, its all one massive con, people are mugged of their intellegence, their tax money looted for the few, not much as really changed since the Dark Ages in the West, or times of the Crusades, which are still fought out.
Any Muslim who thinks Al-Q, bin-ladin, teleban, mushraff, karzai, bhutto etc will do good for the Muslims globally, they are living under severe illusions are these individuals are simply american prostitutes, made to damage Islam.

yukon
04-25-07, 10:01 PM

time to wake up

;24889:
The real terrorists are the zionists & the republican adminsistration currently ruling the U.S. It is now evidently clear that the events that took place on 9/11 were of american doing..bin-ladin & co. were & are an extension for american foreign policy. Iraq & Afghanistan didnt have any specific role in the 9/11 sequel of events, there no weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq, the whole scenerio was made up, & fed wholesum to an ignorant, blind mass of people, finely tuned by the zionist mass media into believing as a genuine terrorist threat. With so many american military bases & so many traitors willing to sell their bodies to the americans, it is indeed strange how.. Bin-Ladin still crops up now & then, just prior to americans making their next move. It is indeed so up-setting that so many americans follow blindly to the illegal, genecidal actions of their corrupt government, so willing to fight wars for their colony - isreal.
masses in the west are cheated, time & time again, there simply is no alternative to Labour or Conservative or Democrat or Republican, its all one massive con, people are mugged of their intellegence, their tax money looted for the few, not much as really changed since the Dark Ages in the West, or times of the Crusades, which are still fought out.
Any Muslim who thinks Al-Q, bin-ladin, teleban, mushraff, karzai, bhutto etc will do good for the Muslims globally, they are living under severe illusions are these individuals are simply american prostitutes, made to damage Islam.



Time for you to remove your head from your colon, Muslimaniac terrorist supporter!

Are those republicans and Zionists recruiting women and children to become suicide murderers in the Middle East? Driving bomb-laden vehicles into markets, police stations and other gathering places to kill innocent civilians? Strapping explosives to themselves and detonating them in crowds to murder as many people as possible? You’re a sick POS, just like the scum-of-the-earth murdering Muslimaniac pigs. You’re an embarrassment to humanity.

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 11:27 AM

time to wake up;24889:
The real terrorists are the zionists & the republican adminsistration currently ruling the U.S. It is now evidently clear that the events that took place on 9/11 were of american doing..bin-ladin & co. were & are an extension for american foreign policy. Iraq & Afghanistan didnt have any specific role in the 9/11 sequel of events, there no weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq, the whole scenerio was made up, & fed wholesum to an ignorant, blind mass of people, finely tuned by the zionist mass media into believing as a genuine terrorist threat. With so many american military bases & so many traitors willing to sell their bodies to the americans, it is indeed strange how.. Bin-Ladin still crops up now & then, just prior to americans making their next move. It is indeed so up-setting that so many americans follow blindly to the illegal, genecidal actions of their corrupt government, so willing to fight wars for their colony - isreal.
masses in the west are cheated, time & time again, there simply is no alternative to Labour or Conservative or Democrat or Republican, its all one massive con, people are mugged of their intellegence, their tax money looted for the few, not much as really changed since the Dark Ages in the West, or times of the Crusades, which are still fought out.
Any Muslim who thinks Al-Q, bin-ladin, teleban, mushraff, karzai, bhutto etc will do good for the Muslims globally, they are living under severe illusions are these individuals are simply american prostitutes, made to damage Islam.



Another Islamofascist terror supporter with his biased world view that has no basis in reality.

Osama and Islamofascists ARE the major perpetrators of terror and are the scourge of the world now. May they rot in Hell for all eternity!!

RWN
04-26-07, 10:01 AM

Naw

Mohammed Zaki;24909:
The real problem is that Islam has been effectively hijacked by violent extremists who readily children into conscious “martyrs”. This creates an environment of fear where no one is allowed to speak the truth for fear of their lives and the lives of their families. And once the fundamental totalitarian aim of silencing the masses is achieved, the Islamic extremists are free to claim anything they wish. Evil is good, good is bad, and God Almighty has appointed them to destroy all non-muslims; and bless them for “martrying” innocent Muslims in the process.

By definition, the embracement of the circular logic of endless Terrorism in the name of God is having the material effect of turning Islam into a nihilistic death cult from Palestine to the Philipines. I does not appear it will end until the last two Islami c extremists are left facing each other with murder in their eyes.




Islam has a very dark and violent past and nothing has changed.
I do agree with the majority of your post but let’s face it Mohammed was not a peaceful man and anyone choosing to follow his cult must follow his example. Peaceful muslims are not following the example of the perfect man.

Marrying more wives then Islamic law allows, getting them young as early as nine, stealing wives from relatives, marrying for money and murdering anyone who speaks out against Islamic law or practices.
It’s all there in the supported writings of various Islamic scholars if one chooses to read them.

Anonymous
04-26-07, 11:07 AM

rwn is what... ?

Too lazy? Incapable? or an obsecurificator?

Maybe one of the above is debatable, but the fact that rwn never puts forth anything from its own brain says a lot about that brain.

Its very easy to go find the back up information or confirmation if you want to challenge me with facts regarding the CIA connection to the 'Study'. But the cowardly lazy pUNDIT supporter choose subterfuge!

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 11:30 AM

Unregistered;24945:
Too lazy? Incapable? or an obsecurificator?

Maybe one of the above is debatable, but the fact that rwn never puts forth anything from its own brain says a lot about that brain.

Its very easy to go find the back up information or confirmation if you want to challenge me with facts regarding the CIA connection to the 'Study'. But the cowardly lazy pUNDIT supporter choose subterfuge!



Actually, you are the one this screed fits. You have NEVER backed up any opinion you have posted when YOU were challenged. You NEVER looked up facts or evidence to support your view. Then you project your loser vision on others to make yourself look better, when in reality, you are the one wallowing in the muck and filth of lies and obfuscation.

BTW: We are still waiting to find out if your brain ever works also.

RWN
04-26-07, 11:31 AM

Thje oneus is upon you to provide fact to back up your allegations

Unregistered;24945:
Too lazy? Incapable? or an obsecurificator?

Maybe one of the above is debatable, but the fact that rwn never puts forth anything from its own brain says a lot about that brain.

Its very easy to go find the back up information or confirmation if you want to challenge me with facts regarding the CIA connection to the 'Study'. But the cowardly lazy pUNDIT supporter choose subterfuge!




Are you that moronic?
Nevemind you prove over and over you are moron and a pathetic liar.
Obfuscation, lies and misdirection are exactly what you want to deal in. typical of the liberal left mentality further proving liberalism is in fact a mental disorder.
Unlike you when I make a post about a subject I do provide links and reasoning.
You have posted what 4 links to unproven opinionated crap sites.
You are laughable in your pathetic attempts to propagandizes opinion as fact.

Anonymous
04-26-07, 11:39 AM

Well! who would have guessed...

Too lazy +! Go ahead believe the your bigoted opinions of the Peoples of the Middle East! The Study Backers want just that! simple idiots try to push a rope into a straihjt line!

RWN
04-26-07, 11:58 AM

Wait wait wait....

Unregistered;24963:
Too lazy +! Go ahead believe the your bigoted opinions of the Peoples of the Middle East! The Study Backers want just that! simple idiots try to push a rope into a straihjt line!



So its ok to use terms like Uncle Tom but as soon as someone dares to say something negative about people from the middle east or more specifically Muslims it’s not ok rotfl.

Once again don’t let facts get in the way of your enormous ego and opinion. Rubbing your face in the sea of ignorance you wallow in is to damn easy. Conspiracy sites and you are akin to a pig in slop.
You won’t reveal anything about why your thinking is so fuxxed up because you know all the sites you cling to have been picked apart by anyone with an ounce of logic

You are a hoot.
Somewhere a village is missing their Idiot and they want you back so they can poke you with sticks and throw rotten tomatoes at you.

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 03:34 PM

Unregistered;24963:
Too lazy +! Go ahead believe the your bigoted opinions of the Peoples of the Middle East! The Study Backers want just that! simple idiots try to push a rope into a straihjt line!



Not bigoted, just seeing the evil of Islam for what it is. If you want bigoted, then you are the bigot who hates without reason.

RWN
04-26-07, 12:01 PM

Good for you

usama bin ladin302;24964:
I proud to be usama bin ladin.
He is our hero.

And Insha Allah he will bring the Islamic government in all over the world.




May you be molested by a thousand rabid goats for your belief in the following nonsense.

ISLAMIC HELL-TORTURE CHAMBER FOR UNBELIEVERS
I n this article I shall describe the Islamic Hell or Jahannum which was an imagination of Prophet Mohammed used primarily for two reasons:

To have a torture chamber for all the kafirs (unbelievers and people of other religions)
To terrorize people into accepting Islam.

The purpose of Hell in Islam is not to punish the Muslim wrong-doers. Because, for them Mohammed will recommend paradise, beautiful virgins and young boys on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are following Islam. On the contrary, a flaming Hell is reserved only for all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews and Christians, no matter how pious and God-fearing they may have been.

This article is divided in two sections. The first section deals with the brutal instructions Prophet Mohammed gives to his followers about Kafirs and how to torture, maim and murder them ruthlessly.

The second section explains the various procedures devised by Prophet Mohammed’s sick imagination for torturing people of other religions in Hell.

Instructions to Muslims about Unbelievers

Koran 9:29
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when follwers of other religions are humiliated.

Koran 8:12
Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs if they don’t follow Islam.

Koran 9:5
“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers to kill the idolators in any brutal way possible until the idolators submit themselves to Islam. Allah is indeed merciful !!

Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

Here Mohammed is trying to justify his brutal acts. He conveniently claims divine justification for the expression of his hatred by saying Allah himself revealed to him personally that people of other religions are evil and belong in Hell. Therefore, according to Mohammed any barbaric act against the unbelievers is completely justified.

Koran 4:144
Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves ?

This verse clearly states that a Muslim can only befreind a Muslim. Mohammed in order to ensure that his followers will not befriend and get influenced by people of other religions, revealed this verse. This verse illustrates that if a Muslim befriends a Non-Muslim than the wrath of Allah will be on him. Therefore in Islam, people of other religions should be treated with contempt,disrespect and cruelty.

Koran 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

In the above verse, Mohammed is giving detailed instruction about how to maim and torture unbelievers in Jihad. And finally when the Muslims are satisfied enough after torturing and maiming the unbelievers, they should proceed to demand ransom for the captives. All for the sake for all-merciful Allah !!

Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

In this verse, Mohammed devises another recipe for torturing unbelievers. This particular recipe involves chopping off alternate limbs and expelling the Kafirs (people following other religions) out of the land.




Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews

Prophet Mohammed has reserved special position for certain sects of Unbelievers in his so called “Holy Book” Koran. Those unbelievers are none other than followers of Christianity and Judaism. I have selected few verses from Koran to display what Muslims are taught and instructed as far as treating Christians and Jews is concerned.

Koran 5:51
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah’s wrath will be on them.

Koran 5:57
Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime...

Here “those who were given the Book before you” refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew.

Koran 5:64
The Jews say: 'God’s hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say!...

In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is showing his deep respect for the Jews.

Koran 9:29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.

Here 'People of the Book' refers to Christians and Jews. The 'Religion Of Truth' refers to Islam. So in the above verse Prophet Mohammed is instructing Muslims to fight and torture Christians and Jews (who do not believe in Islamic version of God) until they pay tax to Muslims for their existence. Muslims are also strictly instructed to make the Christians and Jews feel 'subdued'. Allah is truly benign !!!

Koran 9:30
The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth.

Here Prophet Mohammed is wishing that Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians. And what did the Christians and Jews do for such special favour from Allah ? All they did is that out of respect and love, they called their Prophets 'son of God'.




Islamic Hell and Unbelievers

Now we will enter the Islamic Hell brought into existence by Mohammed’s hallucination and weird imagination.

Koran 98:1-8
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

Here “People of The Book” refers to Christians and Jews. So according to Prophet Mohammed, Christians, Jews and pagans are the vilest of all creatures in the world. Islam in deed holds a high respect for people of other religions !!

Koran 22:19-22:23
Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'

Here Mohammed has imagined vividly how people of other religions will be punished in Hell. By his sick and disgusting imagination, he is trying to make sure that people of other religions convert to Islam out of sheer terror of Hell. And if this terror doesn’t work, then the Muslims are always instructed to convert unbelievers to Islam brutally by force in Jihad.

Koran 18:28-30
For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place.

Who are the “wrong-doers” here ? None other than the people who DO NOT follow Islam. So Prophet Mohammed here continues with his hallucination and gives the description of Islamic Hell in the form of a revelation.

Koran 40:67-40:73
Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path ? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell.

Prophet Mohammed here explains what will happen to those people who choose NOT to follow his revelation “Quran”- a manual of plunder, rape and murder. So for people of other religions following scriptures other than Quran, Allah has pre-planned punishment. First they shall be dragged through scalding water with chains around their necks and then they will be burnt in the fire of Hell. Allah is truly merciful !!

Koran 43:74
..The unbelievers shall endure forever the torment of Hell. The punishment will never be lightened, and they shall be speechless with despair. We do not wrong, themselves.

Mohammed was not satisfied by just having burnt the unbelievers once in Hell. So here he is saying that the punishment is never-ending and people following other religions will be burnt in Hell forever.

Koran 55:41-52
..That is the Hell which the unbelievers deny. They shall wander between fire and water fiercely seething. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny ?

Koran 76:1-5
For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire...

Koran 73:12
We have in store for the unbelievers heavy fetters and a blazing fire, choking food and harrowing torment: on the day when the earth shall quiver with all its mountains, and the mountains crumble into heaps of shifting sand.

Once again, in the above verses, Mohammed is emphasizing that heavy fetters, choking food and hell fire are in store for the unbelievers while the Muslims enjoy the beautiful virgins and young boys in Islamic Paradise.

Koran 77:20-77:50
Woe on that day to the disbelievers! Begone to the Hell which you deny! Depart into the shadow that will rise high in three columns, giving neither shade nor shelter from the flames, and throwing up sparks as huge as towers, as bright as yellow camels...Eat and enjoy yourselves awhile. You are wicked men..."

In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed is making sure that the people of other religions do not get any shade or shelter when they are burnt up in the Islamic Hell. Allah is also revealing to him that all people other than Muslims are basically wicked in nature.

Koran 8:73
The unbelievers give aid and comfort to each other. If you fail to do likewise, there will be disorder in the land and great corruption.

The Great Mohammed divided the Arabian society in two tight compartments: Momins and Kafirs. The word momin means believer in Mohammed and Allah. In contrast a kafir is a non-believer. The momins did not have to be better men than the Kafirs in terms of character or consciousness. Momins had only to recite the Kalima (incantation)- “there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet." By doing that the 'momins' become qualified to kill as many kafirs as they could or pleased, looting and burning their belongings and enslaving their women and children in the process. In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed once again is telling his followers to help each other in banning up against unbelievers (people of other religions)

Koran 21:96-21:101
..The unbelievers shall stare in amazement, crying: 'Woe to us! Of this we have been heedless. We have done wrong.' You and your idols shall be the fuel of Hell; therein you sall all go down.

This verse is another instance which displays the deep respect Islam shows towards other religions. Here Prophet Mohammed is stating that people who choose to represent God by idols will be burnt in hell along with their idols. Islam is truly compassionate towards other religions !!

Koran 33:7-12
...But for the unbelievers He has prepared a woeful punishment...

Here, we find the same old blabbering by Mohammed once again regarding how unbelievers will be punished.

Koran 44:40-49
..The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers’s fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: 'Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: “Taste this, illustrious and honourable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted."

Koran 52:1-52:15
..On that day they shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell, and a voice will say to them: 'This is the Fire which you denied...Burn in its flames. It is the same whether or not you show forbearance. You shall be rewarded according to your deeds.'

Koran 31-37
And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high amd would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds.

Koran 56:52-56
Ye shall surely taste of the tree Zaqqum. Then will ye fill your insides therwith, and drink boiling water on top of it. Indeed ye shall drink like diseased camels raging with thirst. Such will be their entertainment on the day of Requital!

Koran 69:30-37
We shall say: 'Lay hold of him and bind him. Burn him in the fie of Hell, then fasten him with a chain seventy cubits long. For he did not believe Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Today he shall be friendless here; filth shall be his food, the filth which sinners eat...

The above five verses contain detail description of various kinds of punishments people of other religions will undergo in Islamic Hell. They display the true respect Prophet Mohammed had for people who were not following Islam. And through these verses, Koran (the manual for plunder, rape and murder)which is treated as a timeless scripture by Muslims, teaches how lowly people of other religions should be treated by Muslims regardless of time or space.

Koran 2:39
Those who reject faith shall be the companions of the Fire.

Koran 2:89-90
The curse of Allah is on the unbelievers... humiliating is the punishment.

Koran 13:13
..He hurls his thunderbolts at whom he pleases Yet the unbelievers wrangle about Allah..

Koran 58:5
Those who resist Allah and his messenger will be humbled to dust.

Koran 70:15-16
The fire of Hell will pluck out his being right to the skull..

Koran 5:10
As for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the heirs of Hell.

The summary of the above six verses is that a person follwing any religion other than Islam, is automatically assigned to Hell. His good thoughts, good actions or peity are of no value until and unless he follows Islam. So if in this life, a person does not follow Islam and does not believe in Islamic scripture, Allah will store Hell-Fire, Hot water, Molten brass, thunderbolts and other humiliating punishments in the life hereafter for him.

Koran 70:39
We have created the unbelievers out of base matters.

So here Prophet Mohammed claims that all the people of other religions are basically useless and evil because they are made up of base matters. But the same people become Allah’s favourite and become capable of earning Houris and young boys when they convert to Islam.

NOTE: The Koranic verses have been taken from works of Abdullah Yusuf Ali and N.J. Dawood

Anonymous
04-26-07, 01:40 PM

One in the same? Or...

... just as deficient? Naw! even though both are true, your claim of being a racism victim(s) is just part of your bigoted cowardness!

By now you have been told by your cohorts how I am using you poor souls! And you still have no ability to handle it! That’s a hoot for old wooee.

RWN
04-26-07, 02:23 PM

Deficiency is your name

Unregistered;24979:
... just as deficient? Naw! even though both are true, your claim of being a racism victim(s) is just part of your bigoted cowardness!

By now you have been told by your cohorts how I am using you poor souls! And you still have no ability to handle it! That’s a hoot for old wooee.



Logic deficient.
I see you finally dropped the Uncle Tom nonsense so good for you. = )
As far as the rest of your nonsense I hold out hope you will come out of the darkness and see the light of reason.
You are an old dog but have shown you can be taught the error of your ways.
If you go to links I provide you might learn something at some point if you choose to have an open mind.

Anonymous
04-26-07, 02:44 PM

When you drop your uncle toms role...

I tell you that I have stopped seeing you as such. When I stop seeing you as such I will stop using the term as it would be inappropriate.

As long as you continue to be an uncle toms. it stays!

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 03:37 PM

Unregistered;24987:
I tell you that I have stopped seeing you as such. When I stop seeing you as such I will stop using the term as it would be inappropriate.

As long as you continue to be an uncle toms. it stays!



You don’t even KNOW what an uncle tom is, so why do you pretend?

Grow up and get a ral education, Islamofascist. You just continue to prove you are a bigoted racist like Islam commands.

Pontotoc Bill
04-26-07, 03:40 PM

RWN, Yukon

I found this article today on MEMRI website. Immediately I thought of our little peon here that insists that someone stole something. Your thoughts?


[CENTER][CENTER][FONT=Verdana]Special Dispatch Series - No. 1508[/FONT][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/CENTER]
[CENTER][FONT=Verdana]March 20, 2007 No.1508[/FONT][/CENTER][/CENTER]
[FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]In the past few months, Islamists engaged in “media jihad” have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]The following are excerpts:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [URL=“http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP150807#_edn1_edn1”][1][/URL] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American”[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding]." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Indicate You Are an American[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum]." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] 'Random Thoughts' and 'What’s going on in your mind?'... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans' crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known”[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you...“[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][URL=“http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP150807#_ednref1_ednref1”][1][/URL] [URL=“http://www.mohajroon.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48233”]http://www.mohajroon.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48233[/URL] [/FONT]

RWN
04-26-07, 04:11 PM

Well known ploy

Pontotoc Bill;25002:
I found this article today on MEMRI website. Immediately I thought of our little peon here that insists that someone stole something. Your thoughts?


[CENTER][CENTER][FONT=Verdana]Special Dispatch Series - No. 1508[/FONT][FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]March 20, 2007 No.1508[/FONT][/CENTER][/CENTER]
[FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]In the past few months, Islamists engaged in “media jihad” have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]The following are excerpts:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [URL=“http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP150807#_edn1_edn1”][1][/URL] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American”[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding]." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Indicate You Are an American[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum]." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] 'Random Thoughts' and 'What’s going on in your mind?'... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans' crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known”[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you...“[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][URL=“http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=jihad&ID=SP150807#_ednref1_ednref1”][1][/URL] [URL=“http://www.mohajroon.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48233”]http://www.mohajroon.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48233[/URL] [/FONT]



I looked for this a month or so ago.

RWN
04-26-07, 10:54 PM

Clearly someone photo shopped it up

911research;25027:
Actually, who’s really blind the one that blindly follows Osama like you obviously do? When you actually look at the videos that were released of Osama it’s clearly not the same person..
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u207/911research/190207fatnose.jpg



Putting a photoshopped picture on photobucket is not proof of anything.

i169.photobucket.com/albums/u207/911research/190207fatnose.jpg

Further you or whoever mixed the images up.
Last couple of points rhinoplasty and dopplegangers.

Pontotoc Bill
04-27-07, 11:32 AM

911research;25027:
Actually, who’s really blind the one that blindly follows Osama like you obviously do? When you actually look at the videos that were released of Osama it’s clearly not the same person..
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u207/911research/190207fatnose.jpg



Clearly you don’t have the common sense to understand what you see.

As for being a follower of Osama, all I want to do is to put a 7.62mm, 165 grain bullet between his eyes.

Pontotoc Bill
04-27-07, 12:50 PM

THE FACTS;25101:
WHAT MR BI-LADEN HAS DONE IS ONLY A DROP IN THE OCEAN COMPARED TO WHAT JEWS AND AMERICANS AND BRITISH HAVE DONE. HE IS ANGEL COMPARED TO THE REST. HOW WOULD THE JEWS/AMERICANS AND BRITISH LIKE THERE COUNTRYS OCCUPIED THERE WOMEN RAPED THERE CHILDREN ABUSED.



And there goes another apologist for terror changing the subject. To interject that the US, Britain, or Israel is a part of this is laughable.

Osama bin Laden is a murderous thug who wants to impose his version of Islam on the world. For that reason alone, every freedom loving person should oppose him.

Provide current examples of countries that the US, Britain, or Israel occupies while raping women or abusing children. Try it, but you cannot do it.


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